Who wants to BARTER $5K design work for vegan food? WTF? This startup is near Beverly Center, The Grove, HIGH priced hood and they wanna BARTER for vegan food? SEE the scope of the work:
“We have branding that we want to improve and want to create a web presence, need help with package design, signage for festivals, and other sales collateral.”
The work typically costs at least $5K. I’d be eating their food for a decade for payment. I MUCH rather be paid in American DOLLARS.
SHAMEFUL. Ya know a person could die of exposure. Worse, you often don’t have last say in what YOU created. Might not even have YOUR name on YOUR work on their site, media or even your site.
TERRIBLE for vegans. RIPPING off Creatives!
I GAVE away and BARTERED for years. Usually I did NOT get the products or services I was promised.
ONE major reason I have financial issues. I put up with this shit too long. DO NOT DO IT!
“Vegan Food Company seeks to BARTER for Graphic / Web/ Package Design (Los Angeles).
compensation: barter for vegan food and beverages.
We’re a start-up vegan food and beverage company involved in producing pre-packaged items, catering, farmers markets, and soon festivals!
We’d like to TRADE delicious healthy vegan food and beverages in exchange for design services. This is perfect for someone who is vegan/vegetarian or enjoys healthy food!
We have branding that we want to improve and want to create a web presence, need help with package design, signage for festivals, and other sales collateral.
We’d love to see your work (send links/pics) and have you try our products to see if we can work out some kind of barter.
Please tell us about yourself, your abilities, and send your contact info.
do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers!”
I’d LOVE to contact them with an unsolicited offer: PAY PEOPLE decently. URGH. Vegans can be as RUDE and SELFISH as meat-eaters.
But I have work to do. For MUCH more money to buy much more food (and other bills) than they are offering.
Wish I knew the name of the company. I’d publicly shame ’em. POS.
Can ya relate? THIS was my life. These shitheads are vegans and dare to do this to another person? While living/working in a VERY pricey hood. IF you can afford their hood, ya can pay ppl.
Vegan Food Company seeks to BARTER for Graphic/Web/Package Design
We’re a start-up vegan food and beverage company involved in producing pre-packaged items, catering, farmers markets, and soon festivals! We’d like to TRADE delicious healthy vegan food and beverages
LOSANGELES.CRAIGSLIST.ORG I’d LOVE feedback from LA LA YOGA Magazine and ppl into vegan food. Do you think this is right? Humane? Fair? What happened to PAYING people?
I ‘get it’ photographing an event for free, although it’s waaaay better to just pay to get in vs a day or two editing pix to send off to people. I ‘get’ an afternoon helping out for food.
BUT this is a MAJOR branding, marketing project.
THEY ARE CRUEL to whomever responds. Sure, it gets work in the portfolio, but there is PAYING work out there too!!
Take it from someone who has SUFFERED under bartering system. YOU cannot eat enough food to make this equitable (fair). WTF?
I never had money to pay people to help me. I would never ever put an ad to barter for services. It’s not fair to the person responding.
One reason my archive is not all scanned and my sites not all updated all the time. IF I can’t pay someone, it’s not happening. Bad enough I’ve worked for free for decades. I won’t do that to someone else.
One person helped me scan long ago. He got some fine prints. He framed and put them up in his house. It was a fair trade.
But designed a whole marketing package and re-working branding a VERY expensive endeavor. If you want it done right.
What say you?
Comment: “Cash is always good. Gets things done. Professional services are expensive but the alternative is not having it look right & being upset about it. Speaking from real life experience.”
More expensive to be unprofessional. Methinks most who know what they are doing won’t do this for a few bags of vegan chips or whatever they are shilling.
Said as a vegan who knows waaaay too many vegans, yogis, etc who USE and ABUSE people’s work, time, energy and creativity!
Most pros KNOW how much time and money they invest. But ya know, there’s a sucker born every minute.
They’ll find some young, ambitious person who doesn’t need the money and needs the experience. I rather work on my OWN portfolio and promote it! Who is to say this work will be portfolio quality?
How many times do clients demand shit work? Too many!!